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June 23, 2005
More on the Flag Amendment
Having vented my ire over this last night, I was surprised by the reaction in other blogs, particularly the right-wing sites. Sad to admit that it was a surprise, but a very welcome one. Many are coming out against it. Arthur Chrenkoff admits to being of two minds on it, which is a fair position; its never easy to tolerate offensive people. Charles Johnson and his commenters are also against it, and for the right reasons. I usually don't bother with commenters at LGF, they are often the right-wing equivalent of the ranting left, but I followed the link in Arthur's post and I very much like some for the comments. I'll even quote one of the LGF Lizardoids:
I guess what I'm trying to say is, as unfortunate as it is that people feel a need to desecrate the ideals of the country, we have to allow them to do so, so as to identify them and ignore them.
Exactly so. The key sign that burning a US flag is political speech is the reaction it generates. Don't bother to scroll down too far. After a while the typical style of the commenters at LGF becomes apparent.
If you want to eliminate burning of flags Reduce the power of the act. They are trying to upset you, and have apparently succeeded. Turn your back on fools who so deeply insult so many Americans. Never listen to a thing they say afterward. They don't deserve their own amendment in the founding document of the nation. And for goodness sake let's not turn them into political martyrs. Trying to enforce laws like this would be a nightmare.
Wen a soldier or patriotic citizen shows honer to the flag, the act is moving because it is unforced and genuine. Mandatory honors are meaningless, and they extend that meaninglessness to the genuinely honorable and meaningful actions. If in some frenzy of foolishness this passes the States, it won't last a decade. It will be a counterproductive disaster that the left will use to humiliate the right, and the flag will end up less respected.
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I agree totally. Just like members of the KKK, people who burn the flag are making a point. Although the point I take away from their act is that they're idiots and radicals whose opinions I can automatically discount. But just because I don't like what they are saying does not mean I want to make it illegal. Both the left and the right have their radical wackos. We don't have to listen to them, but we shouldn't outlaw them either.
Posted by: Jdeer165 | Jun 23, 2005 5:21:46 PM
Clearly, given my political views, you know, I'm sure, that I wholeheartedly agree. But, I think we should, instead, be focusing on one of the most disastrous decisions a court has made in a long time. Disastrous to individual rights and liberty, since property rights are the foundation of our liberty. I'm talking, of course, about the decision in Kelo v. New London that just ratified all of the very poor decisions made by lower courts over the past 20 years and gave control of your property to your city council.
See more on my blog. Also, see my post on Originalism.
Originalism - http://grumbles.mu.nu/archives/094297.php
Reaction to the decision - http://grumbles.mu.nu/archives/095139.php
Round up of reactions - http://grumbles.mu.nu/archives/095173.php
By the way, you should turn on html comments!
Posted by: Eric | Jun 23, 2005 5:46:27 PM
I couldn't agree more. We need to make sure our Senators reject this ridiculous proposed amendment to our constitution.
Posted by: ReSoT4eM | Jun 23, 2005 7:17:43 PM
This whole flag burning amendment controversy makes me wonder if the only reason it's even out there is so this Congress (and this President) can enact some lasting piece of legislation. I mean, as potential amendments go, the flag burning one is fairly uncontroversial. I don't feel particularly strongly that someone who burns a flag should be punished, although I would never do it myself. I understand it being a matter of respect, but as hard as it is to enact an amendment, is this really what our country should be focusing on right now? To make an amendment just to say that you did it seems a bit silly to this girl.
Posted by: sarah | Jun 27, 2005 10:17:06 AM
Agree! Burning a symbol of America does no harm to America -- when the last ashes of the last flag have cooled, we'll have proven that no country is stronger or more free than the U.S.A..
Posted by: Whymrhymer | Jun 27, 2005 9:36:36 PM
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